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I have three toilets that all flush slowly and incompletely. I've adjusted the chain to ensure the flap raises completely. I've raised the float to ensure the tank fills nice and high. Yet I have this nagging issue on all my toilets. It often takes multiple flushes to clear simple waste and toilet paper, never mind the "hard" stuff.

All the sinks and tubs drain well, no issues. I'm wondering if the age of a toilet can be a factor. All of my toilets are from the mid-eighties. I'm getting to the point where I just want to replace thm with some water-saving toilets but it would suck to have the problem persist.

Niall C.
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allnightgrocery
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I picked up some CLR and scrubbed all the jets under the rim. I even ran some through the tank - open flapper so as to minimize contact with the rubber and plastic. Using a mirror and a small piece of wire I was able to clean out a few stubborn holes.

All toilets were able to take a steady volume of water from a bucket without issue. This lead me to do a little more research. What I found was the hole at the bottom of the toilet that forces water down the drain is actually more susceptible to clogging and plays a larger role in the syphoning action. All three toilets had significant mineral build-up in this hole. A few minutes with my finger was able to clear out quite a lot. Some careful work with a small l-shaped alan wrench brought me the rest of the way home. Whammy!

The two younger toilets now flush like a champ. The oldest was so badly plugged I'll be needing a replacement. I'm gonna try a little soaking with CLR to see if it'll free up but I'm expecting a trip to the hardware store.

allnightgrocery
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To isolate the problem to the toilet internals and not any other plumbing, fill a large bucket (5 gal would be more than enough) with water and pour it in the bowl as fast as it will take it.

If it drains quickly, just replace the toilet, since you were already considering it. I'm amazed at how well the newer toilets flush without using lots of water. Short of replacing the toilet, I like Niall's CLR idea. You could also check that nothing is blocking the flow under the flapper with your fingers.

If the toilet still drains slowly, then you have a blockage that may not be solved with a new toilet. It could be an improperly installed wax seal, perhaps the drain line isn't properly sized, or there's something that can be snaked out. It's also possible you could have a venting issue, but I'd expect bubbles, gurgling, or bad smells with your other plumbing if that were the case.

BMitch
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Here's an idea. Get the rim dry and then cover the drain holes with duct tape. Pour in the clr and let it sit for a good while. Pull off tape and gauge improvement. I've got a similar issue in my apt and now have to burn up a Saturday tackling it.

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There are five things that will cause a slow-flush toilet, and you need to check all of them as possible causes. (1) partly filled tank (2) clogged drain trap (3) clogged rim jets (4) clogged siphon jet, and (5) blocked air vent. Sounds like #4 was your problem...glad you got it figured out. You can see more about each of these here: http://quezi.com/21030

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Check the venting. You have to have good vent in the drain lines or you're losing half of your flush power to the siphon effect from the trap and water remaining in the bowl after the flush. Newer houses are usually fine on this unless there's been some remodling done by someone who doesn't understand what the vent up to the roof are for.

Jato
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Comment on allnightgrocery's answer, since didn't fit in a comment.

Tried the allen wrench in the siphon jet and then a bent coat hanger also seemed to work.

I would run them up the siphon jet a little ways [maybe 1 in], try to scrape "anything" out, and some little rocks'ish would come out. It would flush better (i.e. "flush down all the way" much more quickly). Than half an hour later be back to bad, repeat, more stuff would come out. After about 5 repeats, it flushes well now, no chemicals used. I did clean the rimjets a tiny bit, not sure if that helped or not, doesn't hurt.

I think you need to be careful, if it's flushing "right" it won't fill all the way and then finally flush, like when the tank is practically full again already. If it's working right it'll flush fairly quickly if it's "just water in there" as it were. At least for my toilet (American Standard). If you put some toilet paper and it sinks to the bottom, when you flush that stuff should be pushed immediately out (i.e. "disappear") not just sit there while the tank fills, then the whole thing is siphoned out. If not, suspect the siphon jet!

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the toilet vent could be partially clogged causing the hard-to-flush problem. If a house is under trees the leaves can get into the vent pipe and clog it. I've had to clear vents from the roof using a snake.

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If the toilets are old, crud can develop inside that is nearly impossible to remove without detaching the toilet. I regularly auger my toilets, but it doesn;t help much and for long. I will probably be replacing them all soon in my 16 year old house.

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