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I need to move water from the back yard to the front yard, to combat the monsoon season, in which a 50 gallon container in the backyard can fill up in 1-2 minutes. I bought some 4" piping, and will have it collect water in a drain in the higher back yard, and divert it in a half-circle around the house to the lower front yard.

I'm finding that due to the length of the pipes, about 150 feet, it is difficult to make it continuously downhill. There already is a slight slope of 1" per 10 feet horizontally. Is there any issue if the pipe is not perfectly sloped, and in places goes slightly higher than before, so long as all of the pipe is lower than the entry drain?

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It's true that, so long as the exit is lower than the entrance, water will find its way through the pipe even if there are low points in the path. However, as others have noted, debris could accumulate in those low points. So the answer to your specific questions "does it need to be continuously sloped" is a squishy "yes.. unless you're willing to install mitigations."

One mitigation you could consider is one or more sump pits/traps/catch basins along the path. Here's a sketch from Dejana Industries:

catch basin diagram

This construction is specifically designed to catch debris in storm water systems. That's not what you're after, so we can modify the design a bit.

Run pipe with a continuous slope at a sufficiently steep grade so that debris will carry along well. When you reach a point that the pipe is getting too deep in the ground, install a catch basin there. Take an exit pipe out of the pit at a level higher than the inlet and proceed to the destination.

During a storm water will fill the catch basin. Eventually the water level will rise high enough to flow out the exit pipe. Some debris will settle in the basin; other debris will float up and flow out the exit.

Construct the basin to be leaky so that after the storm the water remaining in the basin slowly drains away. That'll minimize the chance of breeding mosquitos or odors. From time to time you'll have to clean out the debris from the bottom of the basin, but it's better to have it there than in some unknown and inaccessible section of pipe buried in the yard!

Greg Hill
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If you are in a climate where the water can freeze it is a definite problem.

If not, there is still the potential for debris and sediment to settle in the low sections and eventually clog the pipe.

Steve Wellens
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Your fix is to make like a Roman Aqueduct and support the lower "dips" so that the pipe runs at a more-consistent downward angle.

This will also make the water flow faster, flushing possible sediments without a chance to block up.

Aim for a straight run of pipe with the same drop over distance, rather than a specific angle. Start by supporting the pipe with wood or stone and once its well-aligned, consider more permanent solutions like concrete.

Criggie
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Two problems can be encountered without continuous slope:

  • Ice can form, damaging the pipe. Obviously this is climate-dependent.
  • Silt can accumulate. When water sits stagnant, solids settle to the bottom and can harden. Eventually the pipe becomes clogged.

Otherwise, siphon effect and gravity will keep the water draining as you would hope.

isherwood
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One idea is to elevate the 50-gallon container in the backyard that is initially catching the water. Instead of setting the 50-gallon container on the ground, you can use pavers or other sturdy materials to create a platform on which the container will rest. Elevating the container itself will elevate the container's drain hole, which may give you enough elevation so that the piping to the front yard will run downhill.

Note: 50 gallons of water weighs 400 pounds, so whatever you set the container on needs to be really sturdy.

My rain barrel is only 35 gallons, but you can see that I have elevated it about 10-12 inches:

rain barrel painted with bluebonnets

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