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I have single wall plug NEMA 14-30 which is currently sometimes (rarely) occupied by the drier.

I want to add Tesla Mobile charger with 14-30 adapter (from Tesla) to the same outlet of course not at same time.

I do not want to have to unplug one to plug the other than repeat.

Is it according to code and can I split the 14-30 with switchable outlets.

I do not have a budget to install separate run from Main panel (30 feet away) to dedicated outlet in the garage and use Tesla wall charger, since the mobile charger on 14-30 will give me enough charging.

This question is probably asked and answered but I can not find it.

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There are devices available which do this. One well known (but not UL listed) device is the Dryer Buddy. The UL-listed option is the Neocharge Smart Splitter. Either will automatically load shed the EVSE when the dryer is running, then resume charging as soon as the dryer load is done. Both are available in a wide variety of connection types.

There's a couple of items you want to take note of if doing this. First: make sure the dryer outlet is in good shape. EV charging is a much more demanding load than a dryer. If the outlet is at all loose, replace it. Second: you may be tempted to use extension cords as well depending on the placement of the dryer. Try to avoid this if possible. If for some reason it is necessary to use an extension, it's safer to do so on the car side of the EVSE than on the dryer side, because the EVSE has GFCI protection.

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I think the interlock gadgets are gross overkill, and only necessary if you have people in the household who are irresponsible and can't see that you're charging the EV / can't see that you're using the dryer / can't coordinate your activities.

Indeed we have searched for years on this forum and never found any rule forbidding multiple 30A receptacles on a general-use 30A receptacle circuit. They work just like normal ones, it's up to you not to carelessly overload them.

So go ahead and extend the circuit into the garage with another outlet. Or just come off the existing outlet with Legrand Wiremold surface conduit to another box.

If you use extension cord/splitter products make sure they are UL/ETL/CSA listed. CE is not a testing lab, it's a fake mark.

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As I understand it (I am 99% I have seen this elsewhere on DIY but I can't find it at the moment), you can have multiple receptacles on a 30A 240V circuit, just as you can on a 15A or 20A 120V circuit. Assuming that's the case, the simple answer is to wire up a second receptacle and leave the EVSE plugged in all the time. However, that puts the onus on the user to make 100% certain the dryer is not running at the same time as the EV is being charged. Another answer listed some ways to have it all work automatically, at an extra equipment cost.

My take on the real issue

While I understand everyone wants to save money (myself definitely included), I think that budgeting for charging should be part of everyone's EV purchase decision.

For someone with their own home that means the cost of installing a separate circuit for charging, the cost of proper hard-wired EVSE (like the Tesla Wall Connector) and, if necessary, panel upgrade or even a service heavy-up. That cost could range from a few hundred $ to a few thousand $. Which seems like a lot, but is a tiny fraction of the cost of the EV itself. Is $1,000 too much to pay for a Tesla Wall Connector and running a circuit 30'? It is on the order of 2% of the cost of the vehicle, and is the equivalent of getting your own gas pump for an ICE, which would cost a whole lot more than $1,000!

Alternatively, for someone who lives in an apartment or other location where their own private charging station is simply not an option, that means including the cost of using Tesla Superchargers or other publicly available, but not free to use, charging equipment. Estimate the cost over the first few years of ownership and factor that into the estimated total cost of ownership.

Obviously electric vehicle manufacturers aren't going to add in this cost - it would make the cars cost more, and some people don't have any additional cost (e.g., 2nd electric car) or minimal cost. But it should be a part of everyone's purchase process.

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NO and NO! Dryers by code are to have a dedicated circuit. You might be able to manage not using the dryer and EV charger at the same time, but the next owner might not be as smart. They could end up trying to pull 60 amps on a 30 amp circuit or more!. If you want to use the high power Tesla charger , it will need a separate circuit. The alternative is to use a 120v outlet for the EV charger, but that would result in a much sower charging rate.

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